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  California Most Hated State, According To Recent Poll

  by Bangalore in

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  california most hated state, according to recent poll .. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/23/california-most-hated-state_n_1297843.html?ref=mostpopular.

  bangalore.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  The poll was the Westboro Baptist Church members, they don't like us very much.
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  More "Elders" Doubt They Are Appointed By The "Holy Spirit"!

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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  the study edition of the watchtower says the elders are appointed by jehovah's holy spirit.

  it's confounding the society does not realize that more and more elders, do not accept this claim.

  i have racked my brain, wondering how many brothers and sisters actually believe this, fall hook and sinker.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  djnogg, I read your post and would like some time to prepare some Bible based remarks, with my fifty years of experience in the Organization, and with dealings will all claims that, Jehovah has used his spirit to appoint us. I greatly appreciate your view and please allow me some time to respond to your post, Thank you for taking the time to share your viewpoint, all sincere viewpoints are appreciated by me.

  free2see: I use to throw some wild parties, when elders would get a little liquid courage, their mouths would open up. Whiskey, Tee-kill-ya and godo gin, work wonders. Not all revelations were from liqour, the CO yelling at elders, would open their minds, with a few camping and hiking trips. I have good relations with my brothers, and they know I will not rat them out, I know I am loud here, but in the region, I have kept my mouth shut, this provides many brothers "freeness of speech" with fearing judgement or rushing to the others with a bad report.

  "qualified men are appointed" this can be applied to men throughout the entire earth, because every elder ever appointed, who has helped appoint men, know politics and pretense, do exceed being a good person by miles. We had a brother who was young (26) and my view was he was very mature for his age, he knew his Bible better than anyone on the body (this scared a few dishonest elders) his field service was 60 hours a month, but he did not want the title of "pioneer" and refused join the "list". The elderly loved him, and so did the youth, he truly loved the flock, the end result, he was not appointed. The same meeting before the C.O.s visit, a brother's name was introduced, his meeting attendance was imperfect, his visibility was good for service, but he did not love the flock. His uncle and cousins were on the BOE and he was appointed, while the other brother who was two years younger, was stuck in Appointment Limbo. New appointed brother would not pick up phone calls from the "sheep" and had the super busy look, avoiding eye contact with the little sheep. His uncle asked me a year later, "don't you think the holy spirit choose correct, by putting 'brother busy" in place of brother kind?" I said, No! He does not even care about the sheep, and you are blamming this appointment on Jehovah's holy spirit? The brother was eventually disfellowshiped for stealing, and I was told "Jehovah's holy spirit was quick to remove the wrong doer, and keep his Hall clean." I was speechless.

  One other area deserves consideration, that Jehovah's Holy Spirit is able to be bestoyed upon men and women who have never had contact with the Watchtower Organization. Everyone JW has heard indirectly that, you have to be a "JW from the Watchtowers" worldview, so if the big "A" were to come today, for years I have heard "Jehovah would judge all of Iran, Afghanistan, China, Russia, Albany and a plethora of other countries, where the "Good News" has not been preached. The W.T.S. believes they have control over the magnificient Holy Spirit, and who is saved by Jehovah. The Bible is very clear, that Jehovah will save, annoint men and women, who are not affliliated with the Watchtower. I digress, but I wanted to add this to our discussion, that Jehovah has people in every country, he has never left his name unrepresented (Paul speaks of men whose conscience bear witness to their actions, and implicate or exhonerate them, through their God given sense of right or wrong, since Adam.
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  @poopsiecakes - who made a great point about the supposed action of the holy spirit

  by therevealer in

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  i hope that i am not being too presumptuous using your name in that heading.

  but something you said on the elder and holy spirit link made me want to have a separate topic.

  you said and funny how it only asserts itself when previous understandings (also directed by holy spirit, incidentally) cause issues with reconciling the core beliefs.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  Poopsiecakes, your my kind of woman too, smart and very pretty! "The Devil made me do it", simple yet brilliant, thank you for this weapon to add to my weapon arsenal! Hugs and Kisses to you!
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  @poopsiecakes - who made a great point about the supposed action of the holy spirit

  by therevealer in

  1. watchtower
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  i hope that i am not being too presumptuous using your name in that heading.

  but something you said on the elder and holy spirit link made me want to have a separate topic.

  you said and funny how it only asserts itself when previous understandings (also directed by holy spirit, incidentally) cause issues with reconciling the core beliefs.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  Poopsiecakes, your my kind of woman too, smart and very pretty! "The Devil made me do it", simple yet brilliant, thank you for this weapon to add to my weapon arsenal! Hugs and Kisses to you!
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  Are you sowing seeds of doubt among the RF?

  by jam in

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  for those who are still in, are you dropping little hints.

  among your friends , this is not the truth.

  i realize you must.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  There is no doubt, I have learned more from JWN about strange doctrine, than from reading "Kingdom Proclaimers" and the two previous books. As a young man, I loved to read everything the Org wrote, but the strange doctrine, passed by my mental defenses. JWN has the smartest minds and many of you still read the Bible, more than the R/F members. It's a tight rope act, to pass critical thinking skills on new kids and older ones. The R/F in their 55-85 age range, appear to have mental lock jaw, and don't want any medication to balance the hypocritial bacteria. Today, when one old blow hard sister said "Jehovah has hand picked his elders and they are working over-time to guard us sheep." I caughed out loud, and ran to get a drink, with a xanax. The remaining ones in the KHs, need to be careful and guard their speech, just like old JWs in Eastern European Block and Central Asia, feeling out their territory and the proper time. Just my 2 cents.
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  True Pink Floyd Fans Only...(ok everyone is invited)

  by charlie brown jr. in

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  listening to a retro lunch...... this queensryche song comes on....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xuq6dw.

  the only song from them i like for 1 reason........ pink floyd rip off...... hidden voices..... and the corny...........help me!.

  lmao!!!.

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  C.B. I bought "Jet City Woman, Silent Lucidity, and Empire last week, you know how to rock us!
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  Who went to the meeting today?

  by shamus100 in

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  had pancakes with tree blood (my favorite!).

  sipping coffee, going to the mountains today.

  ah, life is good.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  I did and I am tired of hearing how I am appointed by the Holy Spirit. I don't agree with this anymore, and neither a group of local rebel elders, in fact, we think the C.O.s and D.O.s and GB, are just men.
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  Who went to the meeting today?

  by shamus100 in

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  had pancakes with tree blood (my favorite!).

  sipping coffee, going to the mountains today.

  ah, life is good.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  I did and I am tired of hearing how I am appointed by the Holy Spirit. I don't agree with this anymore, and neither a group of local rebel elders, in fact, we think the C.O.s and D.O.s and GB, are just men.
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  Fakeness of the Elders When CO Visits Video

  by TOTH in

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  i just ran across this video and enjoyed it a lot.

  i hope you guys do too..... i can still remember the fake-ass elders scrambling trying to get everyone to show up for service and put on a big face...lol.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=royjqnqrcc0&feature=related.

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  Nugget, the COs lost touch with the real world, they live a sheltered life. The DOs are worse, they live in some Resident Evil virus suit, away from the amaharets, no worries about food, rent, insurance or daily physical needs, the average JW fights for. Personally I know six COs who have had to be re-introduced into the regular world, it is a challenge for them to perform household chores. Sisters are requested to visit, are told the former CO couple's house, needs a good "Spring Cleaning" their cars need a good brother, to work on it. The JW window cleaner is told how, "my windows are dirty, come clean them, landscape needs a young brother to pull weeds" The list and expectations from COs and DOS, who lived a scheduled life, is easier than a elder who works full-time, and cares for his family and juggles the responsibilities. The elder position, is not worth the crap they put up with, not worth the double talking heavy hitters, backstabbing pioneers, needy publishers who can't tie their shoes, without calling for advice.
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  "Get out of the bleachers and into the game"... Memorial 2012 demonstration.

  by koolaid-man in

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  now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall thursday, april 5, 2012, after sundown.. close to 20 million people will attend this annual global witness event including active witnesses, relatives and friends of witnesses, bible studies,return visits and still attached former witnesses.

  the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.. many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses and you can be an instrumental force by standing tall and courageously exposing the watchtower organization.. there is no better way to let the watchtower know your revulsion than to broadcast and present your view by standing fearlessly, demonstrating in front of a kingdom hall.. i am fully aware that a handful of the internet therapists who post on this forum will not agree with this method of unmasking the watchtower.. those intolerant, contemptuous critics who will comment on this thread making harsh judgements and finding fault with those who protest are perhaps deep-down wishing they had the backbone to stop hiding in cyber-space, step away from their computer and "get out of the bleachers and into the game" .

  lets make this a global event!......

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  Bubblegum Apotheosis

  Rick what are you core doctrines for your Church? Rick have you heard of "If You Break It, You Buy It!" What do you plan on doing with the people you break? Will your Church be able to handle a diverse group of men and women, who might want to believe different from you? Will you disfellowship them, if they attend your Church and disagree with your doctrine? Rick, this question will at least bump your thread back to the front of the page.